Kc Registration Fees

[Sandie]

I was having a discussion with friends the other day about KC registration  fees. One had heard of someone who charges the new owner of a puppy, the cost of the registration fee on top of the cost of purchasing a puppy.

I have never heard of this before and was wondering what other breeders do. When I have bought a puppy in the past, I have always paid one price and nothing more.

I must add I never sold my puppies with this fee on top of the cost of the puppy. The way I see it you have to register the puppies with the KC to sell them, and the new owner has to pay to get the puppy transferred into their name anyway, so why make them pay twice?

Its just something that was been on my mind since the conversation and thought I would throw it open to discussion on the forum. To be honest it has shocked me a bit.

Sandie xx

[Gilly]

I'm no expert but in all the people I know who have bought a puppy, none of them have been charged this    

[Jane S]

I would hope no reputable breeder does this! I have seen ads which state different prices depending on whether someone wants KC reg or not but to me this is a sign that the breeder is only interested in money - KC registration should be included in the price & not be an optional extra. I certainly wouldn't buy a puppy from someone who tried to charge extra for registration!

Jane

[Sharon]

All my pups leave here KC registered, I don't charge extra.........the new owners then pay the change of ownership registration.

[cbabe]

All of mine are registered - the new owner does not get to choose (although i ask them to think up a kennel name if they wish) so there is no 'optional' payment on top!

 

[Cob-Web]

One of the breeders I spoke to; I can't remember who, said that their puppies cost £x amount - of which £y proportion was towards KC registration, and that all the pups were KC registered. I suppose it depends how the costs are broken down in the breeders own mind -although I am certain the cost of the pup is a fraction of the true costs  

I never came accross anyone who said KC registration was optional though - so I must have been looking in some of the right places    

[Pammy]

It has to be part of the overall cost of the puppy and I don't think it should be seperated out in any way. It should not be an optional extra and should not be seen as such by either party imho. I would never consider a puppy without amongst many other things - KC reg'n.

[Sandie]

I think maybe I misled some of you with my initial post. It was not an option to pay for a KC registrated puppy or not. This is a very reputable breeder who registers all the puppies and sells them for a certain amount, say £550, then adds the £12 initial registration fee on top of the £550!

I thought this was a shocking thing to do. Prospective buyers pay lots for a KC registered puppy without having to pay the initial registration cost of £12 which in my mind the breeder is responsible for, then pay £10 again to have it transferred into their name!

If the breeder wanted to do this, then why doesn't she increase the cost of a puppy by £10 and do it that way. She actually tells the buyer that they are paying for this on top, and they are stupid enough to do it.

I must admit, I had all my puppies vaccinated at eight weeks of age so the puppies had some protection when they went to the new homes. I told my buyers this before they paid a deposit, as it saved them the trouble of getting the puppy vaccinated for the first time. All my sold puppies have now had their second vaccination so in a week or so's time, they can go out for the first time. Maybe I shouldn't have charged for the first vaccination or disguised it in the total cost of a puppy.

Being a first time breeder, I have listened to those around me. I am not saying what they do is correct, but I had to start somewhere. So my next questions are, do you vaccinate your puppies before they go to their new homes? If you do, do you charge the extra or is it included in the price? I'd hate to do something wrong and be accused of all sorts of things, as I know some people in the cocker world can be nasty and vindictive and only too quick to jump at you if you do something wrong.

Just a few questions that are buzzing around my head lately, and I thought it might provide a healthy discussion  

Sandie xx
 

[Cob-Web]

So my next questions are, do you vaccinate your puppies before they go to their new homes? If you do, do you charge the extra or is it included in the price? I'd hate to do something wrong and be accused of all sorts of things, as I know some people in the cocker world can be nasty and vindictive and only too quick to jump at you if you do something wrong.

Molo's breeder did not arrange for her pups to be vaccinated before they went to their new homes; but as we were picking Molo up a fortnight later than the others, aged 10 week and I wanted to take him out and about as soon as possible, I asked her whether she would do this, and she was happy to. I took him to the same vets (not our registered clinic, unfortunately) for his second vaccination, and paid the invoice for both visits.

Certainly this was important for us; and Molo's breeder was great and was prepared to be flexible to ensure the best for Molo and our circumstances. Maybe you could ask puppies new owners what they would prefer in relation to vaccinations; I am sure they would appreciate it  

I have also heard that some vets 'disbelieve' that breeders worm their pups and give pups another worming dose when they go for their jabs, just in case! Fortunately, my vet didn't question the fact that he had been wormed - but I think that other litter mates were re-wormed   This is probably a response to puppy farmers, I imagine  

BTW, Sandie, the breeder you refered to in your post that adds registration costs may be the same as the one as I spoke to - it didn't seem unreasonable to me because her inital pup price was at the lower end of the prices we had been given, so once you added the KC registration, it balanced out. I then assumed that others included this in the overall cost.

[*-Nikki-*]

We have always paid for the kc regs our selves and the new pup owners have only paid the price of the pup . However my uncle brought a Dobermann last year, for a well known dobe breeder/exhibitor. Any was made to pay the price of the pup + the KC reg.  And as my cousin had got a litter sister, he was made to pay for the KC reg for her dog too .

[Pammy]

worming topic continued here

[Jane S]

I can see no reason why any breeder would add the registration fee on top of the £550 paid for a puppy - that sum should include the KC registration fee. Times are certainly changing & not for the better if breeders are doing this!

Our puppies are not vaccinated if they leave us at 8 weeks but if we keep them longer, because of holidays or whatever (which isn't uncommon), then we will get the first vaccination done at 10 weeks (this is the protocol our vets follow) & pass the cost on to the new owner, with their agreement of course.

Jane

[Chrissy]

Hi Sandie

I think it’s good practice to register all puppies with the Kennel Club and any costs should be taken into consideration and added to the general cost of producing a litter (sorry don’t mean to sound business like when I say producing!).

The price of a puppy should be inclusive of all the costs associated with rearing and there should be no additional charge to the puppy buyer.   I’m not sure why a breeder would sell a puppy for X amount of £’s but then add the KC fee on top other than perhaps the breeder is hoping the owner will say “don’t worry about registering them” and this way if the breeder gets this response from every buyer they will avoid registering the litter and perhaps use the opportunity to breed again from this bitch (with any records showing less litters born and/or descent gaps between litters)!!  Just my thoughts.

Chris  
 

[cbabe]

Our puppies are not vaccinated if they leave us at 8 weeks but if we keep them longer, because of holidays or whatever (which isn't uncommon), then we will get the first vaccination done at 10 weeks (this is the protocol our vets follow) & pass the cost on to the new owner, with their agreement of course.

 

Same here! When i got fern i was so excited by the whole experiance - getting puppy, going to first vet appointment with her, getting microchip together! It was a lovely experiance.

I like the owners to have the opportunity to do the same - but if collection is delayed i also don't want them having to wait for the first walk. So we stay flexable!